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Rai discriminates against minorities

This morning I woke up with a great desire to start the year 2011 in the name of the realization of good intentions. Thus, since a few months I feel the need to pay special attention to the food I eat, I wanted to revisit an episode of Report aired a few weeks ago and spoke of consumption, GDP and groups of people who are organized in communities to self-produce a part of the food they eat in accordance with the principles of sustainability. Actually I do not remember exactly, nor the name of these organizations, nor exactly how they were organized at the level of self-production and for this reason I wanted to review the episode of Report. I wanted ... but I belong to the "ethnic minority-informatics" of users of GNU / Linux and I can not see the streaming site RAI!

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Actually it is not the first time that I can not view the video on the website of RAI. Even during the World Cup it was impossible to watch the games aired by public TV streaming on your website if you are connected via a browser launched by GNU / Linux; and always for the same reason: Rai uses Microsoft Silverlight for which is not released a version for GNU / Linux platform. Okay, you say, but there is the alternative Open Source: Novell and Microsoft, in fact, develop the plugin free " Moonlight "which, they say the same Novell and Microsoft, would represent the implementation Open for GNU / Linux just in Silverlight ... shame that the stable version of Moonlight is not developed to be compatible with the latest versions of Silverlight!

The problem, mind you, not about the choices of Microsoft and Novell on the priority to be given to the development of a plugin rather than another. The problem is that the RAI, as a public service, should ensure that ALL the opportunity to take advantage of its services and to those few who, like me, do not use nor systems opearativi home Mircosoft, neither Apple operating systems. The reason is simple: everyone pays the fee, even those like me who belong to "minority computing" and then they all have equal right to have access to all the services of the RAI.

It would be really interesting if it did apply the principle that any public service, also not made ​​available from a web site of a Public Administration, should respect the rules of accessibility and usability intended precisely to the websites of public administrations. In this way, for example, and to understand the importance that the practical application of such a principle would mean, even the websites of the companies for the urban and suburban transport subsidized by the institutions to provide a public service, would be forced to make their own websites respectful of the principles established for those of PP.AA ..

Meanwhile, all directors of websites providing public service, beginning with those who have the responsibility to manage the website of RAI, I recommend reading the book " The websites of government "written by his friend Ernesto Belisario , Gianluigi Cogo and Roberto Scano . I am sure that the information you will find in the book will be an excellent starting point to make their Web sites accessible to everyone, including minorities computer.

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  1. January 2, 2011 at 18:01 | # 1

    I completely agree with you. But the RAI is no longer a public service but only a place where politics (in the worst sense of the word) makes its interests. Linux, free and mature to be the ideal desktop of millions of people does not produce direct interests, does not pay bribes, no gifts / regaloni / favors.
    The disheartening thing is that few understand it.

    Hello. Ilic

  2. stefano
    January 2, 2011 at 18:23 | # 2

    @ ILIX:
    Ilinx, unfortunately the description that is by RAI that GNU / Linux is pure and raw reality. However, I think at this point it becomes essential to put pressure on that part of the policy with the capital "P" to avoid succumbing entirely.

    My reasoning is precisely in this direction. I'd like to contribute to the cause of those fighting for the total transparency of all that is public; with the increasing importance of the services offered on the web is essential to ensure the accessibility and usability of data and information to 100% of the people. :)

  3. January 2, 2011 at 18:27 | # 3

    Hello I too have had problems like yours right now anyway firefox with moonlight works and I see the direct and deferred from the site Rai my version of moonlight 2.99.0.10

  4. stefano
    January 2, 2011 at 19:00 | # 4

    @ Gianluigi caputo:
    because you downloaded the pre-release version of Moonlight 3, then a beta. If you download the stable version (2.3.qualcosa) I assure you that the site does not display RAI ;)

  5. January 2, 2011 at 21:22 | # 5

    Hello, the rai discriminates against "minorities" as you call it, in a very serious +
    If you talk of discrimination because you can not watch programs rai with linux, consulates thinking that blind people (as I am) have no facility in the canon
    you have to pay the fee even if you have a computer and a television, and notes that for a blind computer + is certainly important to the tv because we need to read and also for shopping on line in short for several other situations for our autonomy staff.
    In short, one pc to read the books and do not give a damn of rai, and you have to pay fees of rai, but do you think?
    To say nothing of descriptive voiceovers:
    http://www.segretariatosociale.rai.it/palinsesto/progr_audiodescr.html
    There's a list here of all the programs that since 2001 have been made available in audio description on radio1 broadcast media, and now live on the web via realplayer ... here precisely even here discrimination through the use of a format owner.
    Practically, with all programs and movies INTELLIGENT that there may be rai, no, these served to you "ratatouille" put you "desperate housewives", "private practice", "spell" and other (to my taste) huge crap.
    As if we were blind the poor bastards who just settle for the little that we allow.
    Then I'll tell you another thing
    I went to "mind your own business" Rai2 on December 13, on the air, for a service on the internet addiction (the video is on my channel, http://www.youtube.it/talksina )
    I was with a colleague of mine who was also blind, provided with a guide dog. In short, did not allow him to enter to watch the broadcast, in the audience, "because the dog ruin the shot" and I said, before going on the air, "stay calm his colleague is behind her" instead have relegated to a small room with TV and hath heard the transmission from television rather than attend the live instead as we had agreed, and note that we have both signed the sheet of permission to appear on the screen.
    Assuming that I am in favor of free software (in fact, as a program-assistant, screen reader, use NVDA - http://www.nvda-project.org ) which is open source, since the screen reader for linux ORCA not satisfy me, and when possible try to use open source software ... if I were you, given the discrimination that's out there, I would be ashamed to speak a little of "discrimination" in a computer; in your place I would have titled the article "the rai does not take into account the different operating systems."
    Discrimination is quite another thing ...
    In the specific context it is ignorance computer.
    That's exactly, we are there ...
    RealPlayer (or real alternative that is) I use it only to be transmissions of social secretariat rai, the few times I'm glad to see some episode of NCIS or Criminal minds deferred.
    But being able to, I'd seguirmele even with VLC ... or god, I never tried to see if VLC supports real. And I installed it on all pc real so I can not even take the test.
    For the rest, I had tried with MPlayer years ago when I used the debian command line (I miss those days, but I changed Braille display and BRLTTY I + supports the new device, alva BS40)
    But even there, I do not remember how I did it because I am past six years, I was forced to copy me the dll files from windows to be able to operate with real mplayer. I mounted the fat32 partition on which it was installed xp, and then with the cp command had taken the dll
    btw,
    I soon the face of all think of moving to a macbook pro.
    And there I will get both Windows and Linux as virtual systems, although obviously not the same thing ... and who have seen we have seen.
    Hello.

  6. stefano
    January 2, 2011 at 21:56 | # 6

    @ Elena Brescacin:
    Elena, thank you very much for your testimony and I congratulate you for the stubbornness in the use of the penguin.
    I do not have many words to add, except that the amount of discrimination you are suffering along with fellow blind confirms even more that anyone who provides a service - especially if the public - should respect the rules of accessibility and usability standards dictated for sites web ... for the rest let me tell you: do not let the penguin !! :)

  7. January 3, 2011 at 11:37 | # 7

    @ Stefano:
    Unfortunately I had to abandon the use of GNU / Linux because the ORCA system, one used as an aid to the graphical interface, does not satisfy me much and especially not develop much more. And the command line can not use it because synthesis type espeak or pico (to Android) do not turn on the CLI while the braille note is without driver: the satellite system 40 Braille dell'alva not supported while it is the satellite pro.
    I hope that those of NVDA do the miracle and manage to bring NVDA on linux but I do not think since that uses libraries MSAA microsoft, for accessibility.
    For now I have windows xp here on the machine, but if you give me for my birthday a macbook pro -which has already assistant VoiceOver preconfezionato- not throw it away for sure!

  8. April 1, 2011 at 9:23 | # 8

    that of mother rai that makes life "difficult" for users of the penguin is an old story, unfortunately ..
    as you know some channels (Rai 1, 2 and all the video replay) is transmitted with a new technology called SmoothStreaming only supported by M $ Silverlight plugin and (on linux platform) Novell Moonlight..altri are transmitted as mms, so There are several displays that support this type of flow (vlc, mplayer etc.)
    before it was implemented smooth streaming, there were different ways to be able to view direct / vod / replay without using plugins * light ..
    This example is a script for greasemonkey I released long ago and still working for flows mms: Rai-TV-Player http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/61782

    from early March 2011, however, I released an extension for Firefox that supports all channels rai (smooth and MMS) and video replay, allowing viewing through mplayer. The addon (which runs on mac / linux / windows) is freely downloadable at the following address:
    http://acab.servebeer.com/

    I hope to have pleased,
    hello to everyone

  9. stefano
    April 1, 2011 at 9:46 | # 9

    @ Mitm:
    very very very interesting!
    Thanks so much for bringing this addon and reported! Will try it soon.
    Stefano

  10. Save
    May 23, 2011 at 19:16 | # 10

    I read some time ago that he had downloaded the program for the calculation of maintenance downloaded from giustiziasicilia that now no longer works, I ask if it would be possible so kind as to send potermelo by mail so that I can use it to calculate how much money I'll have to give maintenance because I think I'm taking on all sides without understanding anything. the ringranzio in advance and I wish you a good evening

  11. May 25, 2011 at 15:57 | # 11

    Unfortunately, the fee is a charge of possession of an apparatus capable of receiving any case, in spite of the stream. It 'a law of 1944 or so !!!! That is a law that could not contemplate anything more than what was at the time, that nothing except the radio. Just like today ... But it suits not update it because indecision anything goes and RAI will respond that the fee has nothing to do with streaming and then she is definitely not obligated to provide on its website software available to everyone. Anyway mitm is a myth .... With the last three moonlight latest version does not work where a tube is a lifeline. I thank him publicly.

  12. stefano
    May 25, 2011 at 22:24 | # 12

    I'm sorry, but as I have often written I do not have copies of the software and do not know of sources to download. It would be really nice to get back this tool.

  13. September 26, 2011 at 10:23 | # 13

    @ Paolo52 the rai is not obligated to make the services available? ah no?
    And the law 4/2004 that accessibility + 67/2006 on discrimination, where you put it?
    The problem is not the law is lacking here; associations are so-called "category", union blind or whatever, who just do not care in the least if the rai does or does not do. We do not put into play just lick the ass to politicians
    if the associations did the right pressure not only us people with sensory disabilities would the subsidized rent to 50% as a minimum but the sites would be accessible to Mac, Linux, and even the vacuum wanting.
    precisely here: in January I said that I would have bought a macbook pro soon ... I took it to two days; I still have all the knowledge of the system that I need to put on linux virtual machine, but also on mac rai.tv not work well!
    About discrimination even though Linux is that it is the most ... apple just press a button and talk. precisely command + f5. linux instead must installarci Orca, and that's not even that we can do everything. Ie there is also the distribution Vinux, which is an adapted, but not make such claims, with things "adapted"; have little to say that Linux systems are for everyone if you have then a blind fan to use them and even pay one!
    I at the time when I was a tactile device that made me use the command line I was excited, but if I was; Now that I knew really excited about linux apple unfortunately not anymore and it did not deny that I am sorry because the potential would be really really many
    But I repeat, back to the subject of the beginning, none of those who should do, is enough.
    Indeed, when I forget which Italian government wanted to move to GNU / Linux, one of the objections that have been made about it was just the fact that is not accessible to the blind. Sure, it's true. Now it is true. But if instead of saying "is not accessible to the blind" who protested (radicals) had funded some developers to look right now would not be at this point.
    PS sorry if I am nervous but I have compromised the website

  14. September 26, 2011 at 15:47 | # 14

    agree with elena regarding interest to say the least poor demonstrated by trade associations and the total indifference of mom rai for the question ..

    I seem to have little sense instead the comparison between an open operating system and free - linux - and a company like Apple, which manufactures and sells dearly hardware and software ..
    applications such as speech recognition, text to speech, and so on, on mac have been developed and improved because there is a return on linux economico..di against these applications do not exist, or are Cmq difficult to install / use, because no There has even invested soldi..non believe this responsibility is due to the operating system, which indeed makes available free all the necessary tools to do so, as the distorted system in which we live so the technology is not at the service of ' man and his real needs, but is subject to the laws of the market (discriminatory by nature)

    I close the parenthesis and take this opportunity to tell you the new version of the addon for firefox which I published on mozilla [https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/raismth/] and a copy on my web server [http: //acab.servebeer.com]
    The addon is of course free and open source, and can be used on systems windows, mac and linux, although support is provided only for * nix -elena: every rule has its exceptions, so I'm available for every need if you want to test it on mac ;)

    a greeting,

    Riccardo (mitm)

  15. February 21, 2012 at 12:20 | # 15

    riccardo on mac I can not test anything, because firefox still not accessible. here precisely: chrome is available on mac but not on windows, firefox is available on windows but not on mac ... although they say from mozilla foundation that we are working. but I believe little, as long as I do not have the facts in hand.
    You Riccardo say apple costs so much?
    But you know what you're talking, yeah?
    indeed, WHO, talk
    you have no idea how much it costs a screen reader for windows? without which, ie, windows can not I use it? Here, it costs like a mac book. 1300 Euros, approximately. 100 € more than 100 € less
    So a computer to use it, by 500 Euros medium of the computer (if it is a fixed assembled) + 1300 euro only software. + If you want to also OCR software for reading, or an external hardware device that reads the paper, you have to spend more from 1200 to 1300 euro and over, there are also from 4000.
    When a ciecato he just wanted to read the newspapers and do not give a damn computer, just go and buy a measly 8GB iPod touch and with 200 euro and a little more, including a couple of applications, which has all the newspapers' I am the world, e-mail, some missing OCR indeed malfunctioning but meanwhile ... or if you really want to overdo it, an iPad that costs you 600 euro, + applications. that are not broken and 1300 software.
    and with regard to the mac, that money costs them alone and do not have to buy anything else because he speaks
    For you it will cost too much and I'm sorry for you
    but it means that obviously you do not know what it means to "cost so much"
    I speak from 20 years ago, my first post ... has cost 10 thousand euro considering costs now.
    Now, speaking of rai, for companies only, for now, but they put the fees again on the use of smartphones and PC, from 400 to 6000 Euros, but we joke?
    Sure there are the facilities, not to the canon rai but to support technologies. If you take something dedicated, you must apply to the ASL with all the delays of the case. and if it is, then you have to wait six years to change media, that what you have maybe also has the cobwebs from wear.
    So you agree with me that it is better not to use the facilities asl, but only exploit the reduced VAT to 4% and the ability to download everything from taxes, for the things that cost maximum 800 euro? Sure. I wanted to buy one of your phones, 50 euro, then we should spend further 200 software. with all the problems. licenses, pay update, serial numbers linked to the device malfunction with the OS update
    then you know very well that I prefer spend $ 700 for a device apple or not?

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